Поздравляю всех наших ветеранов с великой победой !

Желаю всем хорошей жизни и еще, что бы все дожили до 100-летия этого замечательного праздника!

Я так понимаю, что здесь ветеранов наверное нету, но давай те сделаем нашим защитникам приятное, позвоните или просто подойдите ко своем родителям или бабушкам/дедушкам (ко всем, кто участвовал) и поздравте их ! Ваше поздравление очень важно для них, они сразу же поймут, для кого они зашищяли нашу Родину !


С Днем Победы дорогие наши ветераны !

Поддерживаю!
С Днём Победы!

С Днём Победы!

С Днем Победы!

С праздником всех!
Этот день... он и правда был далёк... страшно представить что было бы, если бы немцы победили....

всех с праздником

блин опять повод есть бухать - ну что ты тут поделаешь?

С праздником всех тех кому мы обязаны за наш мир и освобождение от фашизма!

Я то-же присоеденяюсь к поздравлениям наших горячо уважаемых ветеранов - долгих вам лет жизни!

с праздником, спасибо


пс кстати фильм такой был, с белуши, где он говорил, если бы не мы ( американцы ) ща бы все говорили по-немецки

да уж :*(

всех с праздником!

вопрос к антону, а сколько ветеранов ВОВ заходят к нам на РДА?

Вчера, когда возвращался с магазина, какой-то школьник окликнул... не знаю, неуж-то моя морда вызывает доверие... вообщем попросил слепого дедушку до дома проводить, а сам он за вещами побежал, которые дедушка в парикхмахерской оставил.

Вообщем шли мы с дедом минут 15... то расстояние, которое я прошел-бы за 2 минуты... Я сначала думал, что он просто плохо видит... оказалось, что он совсем не видит... пока шли я просто понял насколько они сильны и оптимистичны, несмотря на всю свою, возрастом наведённую, слабость... Он не говорил что пенсии маленькие, он не жаловался на тяжелую жизнь,... он даже не ругал молодежь(в основном наркоманов и отморозков), которая постоянно развлекается во дворе его дома... он просто говорил о завтрашнем (т.е. сегодняшнем) празднике, из-за него он и пошел в парикмахерскую,... Пошел надев звезду героя на старый, потертый пиджак.
Блин, за эти 15 минут, я услышал и прочувствовал всё, как-будто сам побывал там... как они ждали этого дня, когда можно будет встать в полный рост и не пригибаться при громких звуках... как союзники помогли с продуктами,... как отмывались вернувшись домой... как страшно когда человек с которым только-что курил падает... и не поднимается...

Он напоследок спросил как меня зовут... я сказал... и поблагодарил за то, что они дали нам возможность говорить на родном языке а не зубрить с рождения артикли das, der, die... и т.д...

З.Ы. Я проводил его только до подъезда... хотел помочь дойти до квартиры - он сказал что и сам справится... блин, сколько в них силы... я специально отошел, остановился и смотрел как он нащупал замок в подъезде, и пошел... сам... а школьник этот так и не появился... черт его знает,... может и не бегал он в парикхмахерскую обратно... может просто втягость ему было деда тащить... увижу - спрошу...

В общем, ВСЕХ ВЕТЕРАНОВ - С ДНЕМ ПОБЕДЫ.

Если у кого есть деды - передайте им моё СПАСИБО.

ЗА ВСЕ.

Присоединяюсь! С праздником!

Доминант, мой глубочайший тебе респект.

Доми, респект....

А деду своему вчера позвонил и поздравил тоже...
Молодцы они....

поздравляю всех ветеранов.... Желаю всем здоровья побольше... у меня оба деда воевали... один даж на двух воинах, с немцами и японцами... жаль только нет их давно...

мне уже не кого поздравлять из близких... только помянуть их

самое обидное, что не только в фильме, а на самом деле америкосы считают, что это они спасли мир от фашизма.

И ленд-лиз тоже их, как минимум.

В общем, не стоит на них так уж сильно обижаться. В Союзе про роль союзников (каламбур ) во Второй Мировой тоже не сильно упоминали.

Первый муж моей бабушки, отец старшего брата моего отца, погиб. После войны она снова вышла замуж, за моего деда, который таки-да вернулся, с осколком. Никого уже нет. Пусть им земля будет пухом...

Присоединяюсь к поздравлениям!
Извиняюсь за задержку...

Это правда - в Северной Америке большинство населения очень далеки от исторической правды. Многие считают, что основная заслуга в войне америкосов, а русским помогла зима. А если бы не зима, то все было бы немножко по другому.

Но в этом мире никогда не было справедливости, что ж поделаешь. Так Мазепа, сделавший все возможное, чтобы добиться независимости Украины, был объявлен предателем и изменником, Ян Гус сожжен на костре, коренные жители Северной Америки гниют в резервациях, а по истечении полувека победу во второй мировой войне приписывают совсем не тем, кто заплатил за нее страшную цену.

Так было и будет. А потому главное - наша память, которая увы, тоже не вечна.

Слава героям!

Срок хранения информации на CD диске - до 100 лет. А теперь подумай: Зачем Бублю "никому не нужные" коллекции.

извините что я опять влазию со своей скукотищей. но это наверное самое лучшее что когда-либо мне запомнилось из social studies... если вы знаете английский... прочитайте (хотя бы просмотрите, и я надеюсь вы поймете почему я это здесь запостил):

Professor Linton [3] first brought the ritual of the Nacirema to the attention of anthropologists twenty years ago, but the culture of this people is still very poorly

understood. They are a North American group living in the territory between the Canadian Cree, the Yaqui and Tarahumare of Mexico, and the Carib and Arawak of the Antilles.

Little is known of their origin, although tradition states that they came from the east....

Nacirema culture is characterized by a highly developed market economy which has evolved in a rich natural habitat. While much of the people's time is devoted to economic

pursuits, a large part of the fruits of these labors and a considerable portion of the day are spent in ritual activity. The focus of this activity is the human body, the

appearance and health of which loom as a dominant concern in the ethos of the people. While such a concern is certainly not unusual, its ceremonial aspects and associated

philosophy are unique.

The fundamental belief underlying the whole system appears to be that the human body is ugly and that its natural tendency is to debility and disease. Incarcerated in such

a body, man's only hope is to avert these characteristics through the use of ritual and ceremony. Every household has one or more shrines devoted to this purpose. The more

powerful individuals in the society have several shrines in their houses and, in fact, the opulence of a house is often referred to in terms of the number of such ritual

centers it possesses. Most houses are of wattle and daub construction, but the shrine rooms of the more wealthy are walled with stone. Poorer families imitate the rich by

applying pottery plaques to their shrine walls.

While each family has at least one such shrine, the rituals associated with it are not family ceremonies but are private and secret. The rites are normally only discussed

with children, and then only during the period when they are being initiated into these mysteries. I was able, however, to establish sufficient rapport with the natives to

examine these shrines and to have the rituals described to me.

The focal point of the shrine is a box or chest which is built into the wall. In this chest are kept the many charms and magical potions without which no native believes he

could live. These preparations are secured from a variety of specialized practitioners. The most powerful of these are the medicine men, whose assistance must be rewarded

with substantial gifts. However, the medicine men do not provide the curative potions for their clients, but decide what the ingredients should be and then write them down

in an ancient and secret language. This writing is understood only by the medicine men and by the herbalists who, for another gift, provide the required charm.

The charm is not disposed of after it has served its purpose, but is placed in the charmbox of the household shrine. As these magical materials are specific for certain

ills, and the real or imagined maladies of the people are many, the charm-box is usually full to overflowing. The magical packets are so numerous that people forget what

their purposes were and fear to use them again. While the natives are very vague on this point, we can only assume that the idea in retaining all the old magical materials

is that their presence in the charm-box, before which the body rituals are conducted, will in some way protect the worshiper.

Beneath the charm-box is a small font. Each day every member of the family, in succession, enters the shrine room, bows his head before the charm-box, mingles different

sorts of holy water in the font, and proceeds with a brief rite of ablution.[4] The holy waters are secured from the Water Temple of the community, where the priests

conduct elaborate ceremonies to make the liquid ritually pure.

In the hierarchy of magical practitioners, and below the medicine men in prestige, are specialists whose designation is best translated as "holy-mouth-men." The Nacirema

have an almost pathological horror of and fascination with the mouth, the condition of which is believed to have a supernatural influence on all social relationships. Were

it not for the rituals of the mouth, they believe that their teeth would fall out, their gums bleed, their jaws shrink, their friends desert them, and their lovers reject

them. They also believe that a strong relationship exists between oral and moral characteristics. For example, there is a ritual ablution of the mouth for children which is

supposed to improve their moral fiber.

The daily body ritual performed by everyone includes a mouth-rite. Despite the fact that these people are so punctilious [5] about care of the mouth, this rite involves a

practice which strikes the uninitiated stranger as revolting. It was reported to me that the ritual consists of inserting a small bundle of hog hairs into the mouth, along

with certain magical powders, and then moving the bundle in a highly formalized series of gestures.[6]

In addition to the private mouth-rite, the people seek out a holy-mouth-man once or twice a year. These practitioners have an impressive set of paraphernalia, consisting of

a variety of augers, awls, probes, and prods. The use of these items in the exorcism of the evils of the mouth involves almost unbelievable ritual torture of the client.

The holy-mouth-man opens the client's mouth and, using the above mentioned tools, enlarges any holes which decay may have created in the teeth. Magical materials are put

into these holes. If there are no naturally occurring holes in the teeth, large sections of one or more teeth are gouged out so that the supernatural substance can be

applied. In the client's view, the purpose of these ministrations [7] is to arrest decay and to draw friends. The extremely sacred and traditional character of the rite is

evident in the fact that the natives return to the holy-mouth-men year after year, despite the fact that their teeth continue to decay.

It is to be hoped that, when a thorough study of the Nacirema is made, there will be careful inquiry into the personality structure of these people. One has but to watch

the gleam in the eye of a holy-mouth-man, as he jabs an awl into an exposed nerve, to suspect that a certain amount of sadism is involved. If this can be established, a

very interesting pattern emerges, for most of the population shows definite masochistic tendencies. It was to these that Professor Linton referred in discussing a

distinctive part of the daily body ritual which is performed only by men. This part of the rite includes scraping and lacerating the surface of the face with a sharp

instrument. Special women's rites are performed only four times during each lunar month, but what they lack in frequency is made up in barbarity. As part of this ceremony,

women bake their heads in small ovens for about an hour. The theoretically interesting point is that what seems to be a preponderantly masochistic people have developed

sadistic specialists.

The medicine men have an imposing temple, or latipso, in every community of any size. The more elaborate ceremonies required to treat very sick patients can only be

performed at this temple. These ceremonies involve not only the thaumaturge [8] but a permanent group of vestal maidens who move sedately about the temple chambers in

distinctive costume and headdress.

The latipso ceremonies are so harsh that it is phenomenal that a fair proportion of the really sick natives who enter the temple ever recover. Small children whose

indoctrination is still incomplete have been known to resist attempts to take them to the temple because "that is where you go to die." Despite this fact, sick adults are

not only willing but eager to undergo the protracted ritual purification, if they can afford to do so. No matter how ill the supplicant or how grave the emergency, the

guardians of many temples will not admit a client if he cannot give a rich gift to the custodian. Even after one has gained and survived the ceremonies, the guardians will

not permit the neophyte to leave until he makes still another gift.

The supplicant entering the temple is first stripped of all his or her clothes. In everyday life the Nacirema avoids exposure of his body and its natural functions. Bathing

and excretory acts are performed only in the secrecy of the household shrine, where they are ritualized as part of the body-rites. Psychological shock results from the fact

that body secrecy is suddenly lost upon entry into the latipso. A man, whose own wife has never seen him in an excretory act, suddenly finds himself naked and assisted by a

vestal maiden while he performs his natural functions into a sacred vessel. This sort of ceremonial treatment is necessitated by the fact that the excreta are used by a

diviner to ascertain the course and nature of the client's sickness. Female clients, on the other hand, find their naked bodies are subjected to the scrutiny, manipulation

and prodding of the medicine men.

Few supplicants in the temple are well enough to do anything but lie on their hard beds. The daily ceremonies, like the rites of the holy-mouth-men, involve discomfort and

torture. With ritual precision, the vestals awaken their miserable charges each dawn and roll them about on their beds of pain while performing ablutions, in the formal

movements of which the maidens are highly trained. At other times they insert magic wands in the supplicant's mouth or force him to eat substances which are supposed to be

healing. From time to time the medicine men come to their clients and jab magically treated needles into their flesh. The fact that these temple ceremonies may not cure,

and may even kill the neophyte, in no way decreases the people's faith in the medicine men.

There remains one other kind of practitioner, known as a "listener." This witchdoctor has the power to exorcise the devils that lodge in the heads of people who have been

bewitched. The Nacirema believe that parents bewitch their own children. Mothers are particularly suspected of putting a curse on children while teaching them the secret

body rituals. The counter-magic of the witchdoctor is unusual in its lack of ritual. The patient simply tells the "listener" all his troubles and fears, beginning with the

earliest difficulties he can remember. The memory displayed by the Nacirema in these exorcism sessions is truly remarkable. It is not uncommon for the patient to bemoan the

rejection he felt upon being weaned as a babe, and a few individuals even see their troubles going back to the traumatic effects of their own birth.

In conclusion, mention must be made of certain practices which have their base in native esthetics but which depend upon the pervasive aversion to the natural body and its

functions. There are ritual fasts to make fat people thin and ceremonial feasts to make thin people fat. Still other rites are used to make women's breasts larger if they

are small, and smaller if they are large. General dissatisfaction with breast shape is symbolized in the fact that the ideal form is virtually outside the range of human

variation. A few women afflicted with almost inhuman hyper-mammary development are so idolized that they make a handsome living by simply going from village to village and

permitting the natives to stare at them for a fee.

Reference has already been made to the fact that excretory functions are ritualized, routinized, and relegated to secrecy. Natural reproductive functions are similarly

distorted. Intercourse is taboo as a topic and scheduled as an act. Efforts are made to avoid pregnancy by the use of magical materials or by limiting intercourse to

certain phases of the moon. Conception is actually very infrequent. When pregnant, women dress so as to hide their condition. Parturition takes place in secret, without

friends or relatives to assist, and the majority of women do not nurse their infants.

Our review of the ritual life of the Nacirema has certainly shown them to be a magic-ridden people. It is hard to understand how they have managed to exist so long under

the burdens which they have imposed upon themselves.

Хе.... Чес-ря прочитал до 2й строки

2 Leshii:
Какую это, интересно знать, ты усмотрел связь между этим в меру интересным social study и Днем Победы?

2 Yanch:
это к разговору о эгоцентричности американцев...

Млин, мож сразу войну и мир запостишь?

Война и мир - это о эгоцентричности русских